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Monday, May 18, 2009

Moody's downgrade of Japan

Oh my! Let's go and hide in the bomb shelter! Moody's speaks and no one listens!

If you don't already know by now that Moody's is an absolute joke, you now know it today. A trillion in reserves, but Moody's gives them a downgrade.

Check the Reuter's headline:

TOKYO (Reuters) - Moody's Investors Service stripped the Japanese government of its last triple-A foreign currency credit rating on Monday in a move that could revive market speculation about the creditworthiness of other rich nations, especially the United States.

The two-notch downgrade to Aa2 from Aaa was a token censure for Japan which has almost no foreign currency debt exposure.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE54H2RW20090518

Look what Zero (H)edge had to say (btw this blog has some of the best information out there, but just don't trade on it! Use it to understand the bear's mindset!)

With US CDS having been hit by a massive short covering wave, and recently trading in the 30s, a downgrade would potentially have a catalytic event on this manifestation of risk, and as such the upside/downside of the US CDS, which had traded at 100 as recently as 2 months ago, may be a prudent analysis.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/05/moodys-lowers-japan-aaa-foreign.html

Maybe that's why we had the late selling on Friday. Everyone always knows ahead of time what Moody's is planning on doing.

But that's not this year's game!

But what were CDS on the US doing at 100 basis points in the first place?

Heck the VIX averaged 75 not more than a few months back. Anyone think it's going back to there?

So why would stocks go back down?

You've already answered the question.

They're not!

2 Comments:

At May 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

want to bring to your attention that stocks made lows in March while VIX was lower than last Oct-Nov. That answers your question, is no it? VIX may not go that high again but stocks can go much lower. But then you already knew that...

 
At May 19, 2009 at 6:07 AM , Blogger Palmoni said...

That's not the issue with the VIX. I brought that up on March 3:
http://aaronandmoses.blogspot.com/2009/03/sell-me-some-protection.html

Maybe Wall Street doesn't get it, because the VIX hasn't gone through the roof. For some, what's left to protect? For others, who will sell them their protection? AIG? Will Buffett sell some more puts? How about the broker dealers? Now nobody wants to sell these "sexy" forms of protection, because they don't work, and there's nobody left with any capital that's been bullish!

The point was the VIX was the "cost" of insurance, not the "cost" of protection. 100 basis on CDS for the US was the cost to play the panic game--And people were playing that game to move the market.

In March, they didn't need that help. The just had some numbskulls at CALPERS puking up their stocks!

 

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